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Mathieu Segers
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Mathieu Segers (1976) is hoogleraar Hedendaagse Europese Geschiedenis aan de Universiteit Maastricht, de stad waar hij opgroeide en nog altijd woont. Van 2016 tot 2020 was hij decaan van University College Maastricht.